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Rupert, I’d like to go back to one of my
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questions from this morning having to do
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with prayer and I’m really wondering
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what your thoughts are about prayer okay
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yes I remember there was it and I’d like
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to add something to that after the healing
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question I think it’s connected but you
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know often people heal I pray for
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healings for others or they do Reiki
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energy work or ji Gong do those have I
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think I think I’m combining these I
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don’t mean to make them separate
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what does prayer and does energy work
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have healing qualities and the whole
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concept of distant healing am I making
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this too complicated in well it’s prayer
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and healing umm yes let’s go back to
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what we said about all finite minds are
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precipitations
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in and of the same infinite field of
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consciousness therefore all finite minds
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are intimately connected so therefore is
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there is nothing to suggest that what
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takes place in one finite mind
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reverberates into the infinite field of
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consciousness in which it appears and
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touches and therefore affects other
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finite minds because there is no
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distance or space in consciousness and
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for consciousness whether that takes
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place between people sitting next door
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to each other or living on the other
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side of the world doesn’t make any
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difference at all so yes the healing at
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a distance is only an extraordinary
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phenomenon from from a materialistic
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point of view from a point of view that
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believes that there are as many
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different consciousnesses as there are
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bodies
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that each body is a that is a
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self-contained unit that there’s no
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connection between bodies and even less
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between the consciousnesses that are
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supposedly residing inside the body so
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from that point of view distance healing
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is extraordinary if that point of view
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even having a conversation with someone
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is extraordinary how on earth to these
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two through what medium to these two
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people communicate but distance healing
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is an extraordinary phenomenon from that
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point of view but from the point of view
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where we start with consciousness and
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consciousness is obviously the place to
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start because consciousness is our
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primary experience if we start with
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consciousness if we see that all minds
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are appearances in the same
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consciousness then yes communicate
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communication at a distances to be
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expected but going on what you asked
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about pram if we believe that we are a
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temporary finite self living inside the
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body we will basically made out of mind
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living inside the body we will by
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definition feel that all of this is a
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world made out of matter so our
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experience will appear as comprising
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these two essential ingredients mind on
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the inside and matter on the outside now
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when the mind looks at all this stuff on
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the outside it notices that it’s coming
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and going all the time so the natural
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question of the mind to ask is Wow where
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does it all come from who created it
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where does it go and it disappears so
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the mind then conceives something that
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is faster than all of this universe that
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created the universe that it sees and it
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calls that God so in fact what the mind
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doesn’t know is what were the what the
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separate self or the mind made self
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doesn’t realize is that its idea of God
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is created as an image of its idea about
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itself it is a reflection the separate
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salesmen I dia of God is a reflection of
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its idea about itself because it doesn’t
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question its idea about itself because
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it thinks I am at separate self I am a
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temporary finite consciousness therefore
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it doesn’t question its belief in God so
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actually it from the separate selfs
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point of view there is not just mind and
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matter there is mind matter and God so
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as a concession to the separate self we
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can say yes there is there is some
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benefit to devoting yourself to or
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praying to that infinite reality out
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there called God why because doing so
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expands oneself beyond the separate self
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it to a certain extent attenuates the
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ego it gives the ego something to
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surrender to something that is bigger
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than itself to surrender to to lose
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itself in so from that point of view it
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is valid however that conception of God
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can only remain if the separate self
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remains so at some stage our idea of God
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has to evolve because when this because
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when the separate self disappears its
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God will disappear with it its idea of
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God will disappear with it so the what
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what the SEP that the God did the
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separate self is really seeking lies at
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its origin God is not out there beyond
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everything the separate self knows God
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lies at that the source of the separate
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self prior to everything that he knows
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so the true pram is turning the
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attention away from anything objective
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even if that the object towards which we
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are turning is the greatest possible
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object that is God God is the largest
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object the human mind can conceive if if
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the separate if the mind of the separate
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self wants to go beyond this object
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facing knowledge it has to turn in the
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other direction towards its source and
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that is the highest prayer even higher
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than directing your attention to God it
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is directing your attention towards the
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source of AI in fact this is what is
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meant in Christian mysticism the
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practice of the presence of God is what
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Ramana Maharshi called sinking the mind
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into the heart returning the mind to its
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source in pure awareness that is the
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practice of the presence of God what is
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it that lies at the source of the mind
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being aware
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just the simple non objective experience
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of being aware what is the name but
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being aware has in our language it is
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called I or I am when we say I I in its
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pure form is simply the experience of
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being aware that is why I am is God’s
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first name it is the name of God so the
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true prayer the ultimate prayer the
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highest prayer is to allow the attention
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to sink deeper and deeper into its
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source as the attention sinks into its
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source it is in most cases gradually
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divested of its limitations and at some
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point it stands revealed as that source
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so when one says I am that I am yes that
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– the essence of whether yes that that’s
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exactly what is meant by then
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yes yes
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I am the knowing with which I know that
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I am I am that I am
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Ramon Margie abbreviated it even more I
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I in the language that Ramana Maharshi
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spoke they didn’t use the word and for
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instance if you said I am a boy you
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didn’t say I am a boy you say I boy so
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when Ramon Margie said I I he means I am
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I I am that I am I am that which simply
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knows itself to be that is the highest
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prayer to be that because you can’t
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think that it is prior to thought it
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thought arises out of that but in its
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essential nature that that is it is
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without thought it is just pure being
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pure aware being to be that knowingly
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it’s the highest prayer to rest in that
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and as that
